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    Has anyone done this? Is it just a housing / display swap, or are there other issues? I'm sick of the small channel knob.


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    IIRC, it's an all new housing and new top display. After handling one in person, I prefer the XE over the regular 7000.

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    You must also change the top and the XE's are all the new style vocon so if you have the old that might be a issue.

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    Magnus, how can I identify whether I have the new or old style vocon?

    I'm thinking about trying to order some parts to pull off a nice conversion - so if anyone has done this before and has a list that can save some time that would be great too. Otherwise I will post updates here as I figure it out.

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    Its determined either by eyeballing the connecter size or part # of the vocon.

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    Looks like I have the right vocon.

    I thought at first that I didn't have access to the service manual on MOL, but looks like the 7k and XE share the same BSM and DSM. Will report back once I have some parts in hand !

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    Still working on this.

    Does anyone know the difference between 01009304020 (XE Assy Main, Chassis) and 01009304001 (7000 Assy, Main, Chassis). I'm trying to figure out if I need a whole new chassis or not to complete this project.

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    This is getting to be like Grandfather's Axe, it's had five new handles and two new heads but it's still "the best Axe I've ever owned"!

    It's an interesting exercise but at what point would you be better off just selling the 7k and buying an XE?
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    jay have you had any luck with this? i have aquired a model 1 apx6000 and would like it to be an xe model as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfella237 View Post
    I've never really bothered 'playing' with ADP (it's like owning a Harley but still riding a tricycle)

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    No progress yet. Still trying to determine if I have to swap the frame. If I do, I may abort at this time. It's kinda like Bigfella says...It may be a PIA project.

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    There is no difference in the vocon board between the apx7k and the XE in first gen series you can use all your same parts to convert an standard 7k to a 7k XE. The only thing that needs to be changed is the top section, the housing or skin as they call it now and a speaker cover. You can use the same chassis. Now for those wondering about the change in the controller where the connector is different that only effects the chassis sub assembly. The original chassis sub assemble NHN7003A was changed to NHN7017A and now is NHN7017B. With this change the flex connector going to the vocon is longer and so is the flex connector going to the display. If you have a MNCN6200 your going to need the NHN7003A chassis sub assembly if you have the MNCN6201 you will need the NHN7017B chassis sub assemble and the appropriate display modules to go with it.

    Now as far the original question yes if you want to convert your APX7000 into an XE you can do it with just a control top change, XE skin and XE speaker cover. I know I have personally done it and it is painless, pricey but painless! Oh and last note, the vocons are not available by themselves anymore you have to order them in a kit and there is a kit number depending on encrytion algorythms. When you call parts ID to find your kit number you will need to tell them what algos if any are needed because the kit changes depending on the algos that are loaded in the vocon at the factory...

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    I finally got around to doing this (and the parts fairy finally delivered). Thanks to all who have contributed to the thread.

    Since the XE has a different control top, back chassis assembly and speaker grill assembly, you'll need to order those parts in the color that you want. I wanted to stick with black, so I ordered:

    01009506007 black control top (this is the expensive part, try to spend money that isn't yours on this)
    NHN7088AS black chassis assembly, dual display (aka assembly, service, housing, black)
    NHN7053AS assembly, speaker grill, black

    The procedure for assembly/disassembly for both the 7000 and the XE are in 6875962M01_G Basic Service Manual for the APX7000 and XE. Essentially after removing the antenna and battery, the steps I took were:

    1. Remove 7000 knobs, spanner nuts, washers, etc. Remove control top plastic assembly. Be careful with the encryption plastic switch. You'll see the two screws that hold the control top assembly. Remove those.
    2. Remove the existing speaker grill, speaker module and main housing assembly (keypad). You'll have to take out six screws total.
    3. I had a expansion board assembly (Bluetooth) so I had to pop the plastic locking levers, then pull the bluetooth board. Under that, you can see the flex on the control top. Pop that loose, remove and set aside.
    4. Put on your new XE control top. Drop in the two screws that came with it, and plug in the flex. Put the volume knob on after you put the screws in.
    5. Replace the Bluetooth board with the plastic levers, the speaker module and use the new speaker grill assembly. Put on the new main housing assembly.
    6. Replace the antenna washer and spanner nut.
    7. Enjoy your new large top display and knobs!

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    you know what they say, pics or it didnt happen.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfella237 View Post
    I've never really bothered 'playing' with ADP (it's like owning a Harley but still riding a tricycle)

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    Does the control top come with the new knobs? Any problems with flex cable length?
    Last edited by otter9309; Dec 30, 2012 at 03:55 PM.

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    Control top part number that I posted comes with the new knobs and screws. Flex cable length wasn't an issue.

    Here is my before and after picture.

    XE.jpg

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    Man! Love the black XE! Thanks for the parts list.

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    Damn...not cheap!

    01009506007 - $472.50 CAD
    NHN7088AS - $69.30 CAD
    NHN7053AS - $46.20 CAD

    Total is $588.00.

    I don't have a MSS or reseller account, so my prices are actual retail cost. Still very pricy just for the whore factor

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    Classy look! I wonder if you can order the knobs separate, and if so, are the Vol/Chan Sel knob inserts the same size? (When wanting to put XE knobs on a regular 7k)

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    It is not a cheap upgrade, that is for sure. And having the correct bits for the spanner removal on the 7000 is very helpful.

    The knobs are available separate from the control top....But the inserts are different. That would be too easy!!

    36009258001 - XE freq knob
    36009258001 - XE volume knob

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    Jay, I might be a little late in saying this, but it looks great and thanks for sharing this.