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    I practically live down the street a few miles. I can easily do some recon for anyone whenever. I share some vendor spots with a group of folks that come from afar as well. They're all asking the same questions about mud etc.

    As much as I hate to admit it, I'm going to go lurk in the DARA membership meeting on Friday. Normally they just take time to pat themselves on the back over scheduling food trucks, but we'll see. They could have some relevant news in the works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars View Post
    was there a legitimate mental illness involved?
    Anyone who does this to their car has a legitimate mental illness. It just might be undiagnosed.

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    Thanks Gtaman for the offer would be nice to find out how bad it will be this year in advance.

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    Here's an update from my facebook feed:

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    I had to see this for myself. I can confirm they have 1.5 rows of asphalt grindings put down in the infield as of a couple hours ago!

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    Hello everyone,

    I wanted to follow up with a picture of the fleamarket infield. This was taken yesterday, May 12th, around noon. This is exactly what it looked like a week ago. Despite nice weather all last week, no further work has been done.

    This is a head-scratcher for me. They only have 3 days remaining.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartley View Post
    I can't understand why they've left THIS guy out of the lineup:
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    (from my last appearance at Dayton, 12 years ago )
    You would think he would get that fender fixed by now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFI-EMI-GUY View Post
    You would think he would get that fender fixed by now!
    Please re-read the entire thread. The owner is deceased, and the car no longer exists.

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    Has anyone taken the time to co-ordinate an on-site frequency, NAC, key? I would definitely be interested in chatting/meeting some fellow members.

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    I have some good news! Looks like they are 95% complete with placing the asphalt grindings. There are some spots on the far outer ring that are still in "pile" form and haven't been flattened into a pathway. We just had a good storm with about an inch of rain so the ground is definitely saturated now. The Wx trend continues to move towards favorable conditions later in the week. We're down to about 30% chance of rain Thursday-Friday.

    Also, there is a rumor that the Hamvention folks will be doing some kind of "boat-anchor check". The concept is one can buy a large "thing" at the flea market, store it with a claim check ticket and pick it up later with a vehicle. That way you don't have to worry about carrying large stuff back on the busses. Again, this is just a rumor right now, but it's definitely worth looking into if you need to use the bus transportation.

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    Sitting in the Dayton Marriot. Went to the site to plan the route tomorrow. TV says 90% chance of rain. 2 lane road to site promises 90 minute drive for last 5 miles to site. Hopefully it wont rain, as the flea market is outdoors, while indoors is only commercial. Hope to see some friends there.

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    Got your bail money and a lawyer on retainer for DHS on the return home? I get there will be some Feds in the crowd.
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    I've always assumed that's been the case for ages.

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    Traffic to the site moved quickly. The local cops were very well organized. It rained a little, on & off, but mostly a great day. Met Conrad, & Tony from S. Florida there. P25 900 simplex worked great for the whole site. My first Dayton was a blast. GARY

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    Pictures! We need pictures!
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    Friday was good. A few rain showers that passed in about 10-20 minutes. Parking was good and generally dry the same for the flea-markup although it did get soggy after the second rain.

    Overnight it rained a few times. This soaked up the parking areas.

    Saturday was messy. The rain made the parking areas muddy especially where there was enough cars driving over the same areas. It got bad enough that many of the golf carts and tractors stopped activities around 11 am. The flea-markup area was real messy with not much drainage for the rain. With all the foot traffic it stayed messy. Boots would have been better than shoes.

    Over all it was a good event for the two days I was there. Good organization on the part of the hamvention people and well laid out. Lots of staff available and able to answer most questions. Although I referred to it as the flea-markup the prices seen were generally fair and the hardware offered was in good shape and as listed/described. There was lots of 'current harware' available such as DMR/TRBO and P25. I saw some APXs, lots of ASTRO and ASTRO25 hardware along with some NXDN and Dstar equipment. The flea market opening at 9am has virtually eliminated the dealers buying from each other before the public was admitted that has always left a bad taste from earlier years.

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    Camouflaged discone antenna?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars View Post
    Camouflaged discone antenna?
    That whacker gives ham radio a bad name. Any non-ham member of the public would get the impression that hams are weirdos, which isnt far from the truth in many cases.

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    All I can say is they did try to fix the mud problem but they missed the smaller flea market area next to the buildings. When I asked why that was not complete the answer was "we" ran out of time. They had a year to plan but still did not get this task completed they ended up putting down hay. I think IWCE in Las Vegas next year will be more fun and dont need to worry about the rain or smelly hams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parker4782 View Post
    I think IWCE in Las Vegas next year will be more fun and dont need to worry about the rain or smelly hams.
    Just all the scammers, IE sales people.

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    IWCE is great to see whats on the market and to touch the hardware but take what your told with a huge grain of salt. They are there to sell packages and not units. Also all the stuff is top of the line and the actual production units may not be a good.

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    Our group has been going for years to IWCE and I agree with the statements made about the sales people. But we always have a great time and don't deal with the kind of BS that Hamvention has become of the last 10 years.

    I can say the flea market area was very empty compared to last year and you could in most cases get better deals from the quaility forum members here or on eBay while saving thousands of dollars.

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    I went to an APCO Canada conference/tradeshow a number of years ago. One of the reps from JVC/Kenwood was peddling NXDN as being more secure than TRBO because it uses "incompatible scrambling". I asked what it was incompatible with and he said scanners. Well no shit sherlock, all "scrambling" is incompatible with scanners - it doesn't make your offering any more secure! (In reality, NXDN scrambling is worse than TRBO for what it's worth - 15 bit vs 40 bit).

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    Every year I say I would love to go and something happens or there is a scheduling conflict.

    Not in 2019.. I booked my hotel this morning for next year. Hope to meet some of you guys and put faces with names!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CQDX View Post
    I went to an APCO Canada conference/tradeshow a number of years ago. One of the reps from JVC/Kenwood was peddling NXDN as being more secure than TRBO because it uses "incompatible scrambling". I asked what it was incompatible with and he said scanners.
    This is a big problem in industry. The sales reps are so used to the smoke and mirrors approach to selling that they forget that at such trade shows they are dealing with professionals who really do know what the equipment is, what it can do etc. We are going to be asking hard questions about items like infrastructure, data/loading capacity fleet size and sub fleet configurations in short all the type of questions the sales guy doesnt want asking. Worse we know a lie when we hear it.

    Simple solution is to send a qualified tech/eng that knows the hardware and the systems it is designed to work on. Provide quality accurate reading material and sales or serious requests for demo hardware will follow.

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