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    So I see that the FT-1DR is available online for the (not unreasonable) price of $510-525. In comparison, it is a Model III-esque radio with a P25-like digital transmission, supporting text and picture messaging (weird but interesting). If it weren't for the fact that this didn't use the P25 standard, it would be an awesome radio (but I suppose the cost is made possible by the lack of licensing necessity).

    There's also next to no information regarding these radios at all besides official Yaesu literature. Has anybody purchased one? I'm tempted at a price like that, but I'd have to get two because...well...they don't talk to anything else.

    Also the remainder of Yaesu's promised digital equipment has yet to appear (mobiles, repeaters).


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    Got a pair of these recently, digital audio is decent and the rig has advanced APRS features with build-in GPS.
    Digital is proprietary C4FM, not compatible to anything else in the market.
    Same digital format mobiles and repeaters will be available later this year from YAESU.

    Real pity that it doesn't do P25...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwissMoto View Post
    Got a pair of these recently, digital audio is decent and the rig has advanced APRS features with build-in GPS.
    Digital is proprietary C4FM, not compatible to anything else in the market.
    Same digital format mobiles and repeaters will be available later this year from YAESU.

    Real pity that it doesn't do P25...
    My sense is that if it did do P25 it would cost $1000 instead of $500 for licensing reasons. All the same very interesting.

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    So another "one off" digital platform...Yaesu did it again!
    They tried (and failed) with WiRES (versus IRLP and EchoLink)
    Now they're doing the same with digital. What a shame. Why not go iDAS/NXDN, DMR...anything but ANOTHER one off. I can't wait to see this mysterious infrastructure they don't even have on the market. Let alone the cost.

    No thanks, I'll stick with DMR and NXDN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTS2000DES View Post
    So another "one off" digital platform...Yaesu did it again!
    They tried (and failed) with WiRES (versus IRLP and EchoLink)
    Now they're doing the same with digital. What a shame. Why not go iDAS/NXDN, DMR...anything but ANOTHER one off. I can't wait to see this mysterious infrastructure they don't even have on the market. Let alone the cost.

    No thanks, I'll stick with DMR and NXDN.
    Yup my money is on EPIC fail... Kinda like Wires and Alinco's and their digital offering...

    As to infrastructure, I am not holding my breath.

    Yaesu needs to wake up and listen to what their customers are asking for.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Viper1-6 View Post
    Yup my money is on EPIC fail... Kinda like Wires and Alinco's and their digital offering...

    As to infrastructure, I am not holding my breath.

    Yaesu needs to wake up and listen to what their customers are asking for.


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    Even if they extend a current standard (add proprietary features on top of a currently existing standard)...

    Are there any open standards with proper modulation?

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    Has anybody looked at the possibility of convert these to P-25?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG-BOY View Post
    Has anybody looked at the possibility of convert these to P-25?
    Better to build one yourself. Lots of reverse engineering if they've even left the debugging open. Different modulation...

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    Probably not an easy task. Channel encoding is YAESU proprietary, totally different from P-25.
    Only the modulation is C4FM, same as used in APCO P-25 phase 1.