Firmware updates - Mototrbo

radiotechs

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we have approximately 700 radios to firmware update using RM, none of them have unique IP addresses, but wondered has anyone found a way to make it efficient.
We have 5 laptops available, but now thinking of building a rack of computers we take to each site, as these 700 are the first of 5 sites, and in for a long time
 

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Two solutions -

I you really want to do with cables -- Build a Intel NUC or similar with Windows, Device Programmer. and a programming cable. Duplicate the build times the number of radios you want to do simultaneously. Since the normal issue is the 192 local address each NUC can do one radio with no IP conflicts s between them.

But I would be more apt to stand up a temporary WiFi point and bypass the IP addressing issue.
 
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radiotechs

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i think the multiple build may be the only option then, as the location restricts the use of wifi unfortunately, looks like a rack of nuc's is the way to go
 

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Phone buff has a exellent point you could use your own Wifi router. In effect making a WIFI hot spot for your reprograming use.
 

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If a hotspot isn't called WiFi, and it's just a 2.4 GHz access point for wireless programming, does anybody know the difference?
 

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i think the multiple build may be the only option then, as the location restricts the use of wifi unfortunately, looks like a rack of nuc's is the way to go

As @Notarola noted, the customers WiFi policy is somewhat irrelevant here. If you can put a NUC on the network , and the NUC has the 802.11ac capability you can build an AP with the default MSI SSID and DHCP requirements to do your updates on WiFi (use a /22 subnet (1024 hosts) so you don't have to reset the DHCP server.) Your customer should love this as you are saving some 20% to 40% of the time it will take to do this over the cable. (Rather it costs the end customer less or more is up to you.) Of course this means that the subscriber needs the WiFi entitlement.

Note: If you do WiFi check the WiFi "set" in Radio Manager you may want other settings going forward for the customer. In fact it's a good idea to look at them either way.
 

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However, with the access point / wifi option, is to check if the client has any of the WIPS type solutions deployed - we service a retail chain, and they have exactly this, which kills off any 'rouge' access points that crop up in their zone of their stores.
 

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However, with the access point / wifi option, is to check if the client has any of the WIPS type solutions deployed - we service a retail chain, and they have exactly this, which kills off any 'rouge' access points that crop up in their zone of their stores.

With a unique AP / SSID and Device Programmer installed locally on a NUC how would a Wireless Intrusion Protection System "kill off" this environment. It's no different than sitting down at a lunch counter and running your tablet off your cell hotspot.
 

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With a unique AP / SSID and Device Programmer installed locally on a NUC how would a Wireless Intrusion Protection System "kill off" this environment.
Yes, and if it *does* "kill off" the AP, then isn't that intentionally causing harmful interference? Pretty sure the FCC issued a memo about that at some point in the recent past...
 

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@phonebuff: yes, indeed. For what it's worth, my question was rhetorical :) though I didn't make that clear...
 

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With a unique AP / SSID and Device Programmer installed locally on a NUC how would a Wireless Intrusion Protection System "kill off" this environment. It's no different than sitting down at a lunch counter and running your tablet off your cell hotspot.

For some reason, cell hotspot works, but putting a ubiquiti AP off a separate wired broadband connection, gets removed by the WIPS system - the wifi is viewable for approx 30 seconds, and then drops off the list of available access points. This is in the UK, so not sure on our rules about it.

This is in a large retailer thats owned by a US company - tkmaxx. (TJX corp). And was explained to me by their IT team when I called up.

they use this: