XTL Mute Encryption

[tuckerm]

I had a firmware update done on a XTL 5000. After the firmware update, secure transmissions are coming across garbled where before they were muted. I have not changed anything in the codeplug. I've played with the AND/OR Mute options per personality and they are still garbled on Secure. I do not have a secure module in this radio, I just want it to be muted during secure transmissions.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

 

[ptolemy9200]

Is it on digital csq? Try leaving it on normal instead of digital csq then use the mixed in the conv personalities or digital whichever you need and f7e as nac or the actual nac. Try f7e if it comes through using the actual nac. See if that changes anything.

 

[ptolemy9200]

By any chance does it have adp software defined and enabled?

 

[tuckerm]

Is it on digital csq? Try leaving it on normal instead of digital csq then use the mixed in the conv personalities or digital whichever you need and f7e as nac or the actual nac. Try f7e if it comes through using the actual nac. See if that changes anything.

It's on Normal squelch with correct nac.

By any chance does it have adp software defined and enabled?

No encryption in this radio at all. Secure option is unchecked. Worked just fine before firmware bump.

 

[ptolemy9200]

strange. Either it's a Un seen change with a firmware update with the one release within the latest firmeare that dealt with brief noise burst narrow dpl/pl (I'm assuming the typical des aes boards that on a rxing xts/l there would be a occasional burst prior to the reverse burst in analog narrow That this addressed?) or they changed it so a user knows there is activity on a channel as some I recall complained of others walking on one and couldn't tell when 2 talking were strapped and other users in the group or channel had no additional key say for supervisors talking to another while the others weren't allowed access to that particular key. Wonder if they addressed that so anyone on that channel knows there's activity and to wait to tx as there was problem with users walking on another because they couldn't hear the garble enc of the other users sharing the channel. Hmm I know in past the audio would only unmute if the correct nac was set and key or correct nac with enc transmissions and digital csq was set in the astro settings also. Unless someone else knows either they changed it in the firmware release to open audio on everything or it was a unseen change that'll be addressed in the next release.

 

[tuckerm]

Yeah, it's the correct NAC on the channel with Normal Squelch and RX Unmute/Mute Type is And Unmute, or Mute. I do not have secure in this radio at all, so it's annoying that I hear the garbled digital transmission. I'd rather have it muted out.

 

[ptolemy9200]

maybe a setting got changed during the process by the firnware? Let me look at my one xts I know recently I changed some settings and it unmutes on everything on one channel let me see if it's just a setting somewhere. It's on firmware 15 however.

 

[tuckerm]

Yeah, its R20.00.10 I believe. My truck radio is R11 and doesn't have this issue and my XTS portable is R20.00.01 and doesn't have the issue either.

 

[ptolemy9200]

In your conv perosnality for that channel, under the astro tab you say it's set to normal correct? Under the rx unmute rule in the astro tab in conv personality? have you tried selective squelch?

 

[tuckerm]

ASTRO Tab RX Unmute Rule is Normal Squelch. Changing to Selective Squelch gives me an Invalid Field under the RX Unmute rule.

 

[ptolemy9200]

The latest firmware is r20.50.05

 

[ptolemy9200]

I noticed on my 2 radios that do not unmute to any enc are set to selective in the unmute rule and are mix mode how ever using pls for analog. Maybe try that? Does it give reason to erroring when you try selective? These also are using f7e not the proper nac.

 

[tuckerm]

RX Mute Delay is 1ms. The main channel it is happening on is a Mixed Mode channel with PLs for Analog and NAC that is not F7E. Another channel that I am testing my secure channel/radio on does the same thing and that is Digital only, no mixed. No reason given for when it errors out on changing to selective.

 

[tuckerm]

Are you referring to the CPS help file? There is plenty of info in it, including an explanation on why you are unable to choose Selective Squelch.

Also, make sure the Late Entry Fast Unmute option on the ASTRO tab is unchecked. Having that option enabled can cause the behavior you're describing.

Last Entry Fast Unmute is unchecked...also I understand why Selective Squelch is not working, I don't have The Talkgroup field or the Selective Call Decode field enabled.

 

[radioman2013]

I had a similar problem went nuts looking at all the secure settings. Turned out it was the fact the mic wasn't grounded, you might try that or look at the hang up settings.

 

[ptolemy9200]

What is the mic hang up set to? Pl defeat? Etc

 

[ptolemy9200]

For giggles make a new channel with a new conv personality at default changing only the analog and mute/ or mute adding new conv mdc new astro system and see what happens. Take it out of scan see if anything changes. Then throw scan on.

 

[tuckerm]

What is the mic hang up set to? Pl defeat? Etc

That was it. Hub defeats PL was enabled. Unchecked blocked out secure garbled noise. Thank you very much.

 

[Alpha]

Thank you for posting your confirmation of the solution, everyone likes to get a little feedback on whether their help actually, well, helped.

Next time (and you can still do this) hit the "Thanks" button in the lower left of the informative post that helped you to give that person some credit.

 

[tuckerm]

I always like to give feedback, especially for the Google searchers. I did hit "Thanks" on the two answers that got me steered the right way.

Thanks again everyone.